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michelangelo that michael cherished. his work survived that his wife escaped death. i tend to bind my soul to my work. his soul does live on in the music and above all the lies have touch and forever changed. that's all for us tonight. let's get you caught up on the day's headlines. three million homes across nine states are dark and uncomfortably hot. no electricity and no relief from the heat baking so much of the country. last night's wave of powerful thunderstorms killed at least a dozen people. triple-digit highs were the norm in many places. atlanta set an all time high of 106 degrees. new time lapse video do you meaning the devastation of the waldo canyon fire in colorado.
flame are sending families fleeing for their homes and destroyed 350 homes and killed two people. i talked with neal harlow about the challenges of fighting fire from the air. >> extremely high temperatures. everything is causing these fires to burn hot as they are creates great problems for us and the aircraft doesn't perform as well. the helicopters she has to watch out for. >> one bit of good news, firefighters now have 100% containment over another colorado fire and the massive hyde park fire we were reporting so much on. new questions in the jerry sandusky child rape case. we uncovered alleged content of an e-mail thread with penn state's president, vice president, and athletic director. the messages e-mail that officials knew they had a problem with him dating back to
2001, but decided to handle the issues internally. here's what else we are working on for cnn saturday night. a cnn exclusive. he had it all. basketball, money and fame. >> good luck to you. >> he lost it all. jason williams on his rise, his fall, and why he said prison saved his life. >> we can't be her. she is my best student. >> turning a mind eye to mean girl who is turn into meaner women. >> tom cruise katie holmes and the end of tomcat. why some say scientology is to blame for the break up. first we will be direct here. he wants us to be. from first round draft pick to locked up felon. by all accounts, jason williams was a star at the young age of 22. a first round draft pick and few could rival the forward when he was under the net.
few people could. it seemed his career had no ceiling. he was only continuing to rocket to even higher heights until 1999. in a game against the atlanta hawks he collided with a teammate and broke his leg. in one moment, his entire career on the court was over. his plummet hit depths unknown and on valentine's day in 2002. he was showing off a shotgun in his new jersey mansion. it fired. the blast killed his chauffeur. eight years later, he was finally sentenced in that killing. he said his time in prison changed him to his core. jason williams joins me now here tonight. >> how are you doing? >> thanks for having me. first of all, i want to say i caused a lot of pain and appreciate you having me on here today to express my remorse and i come to you humbly and to
everybody and i want to say i'm sorry and i take full responsibly. >> pai thank you for saying that and i know you were nervous about coming on, but i said let me know how you are feeling. you signed an $86 million contract and on top of the world with the new jersey nets. what became part of a dramatic fall happened when you broke your leg. did you think then, my goodness, this is over or did you have more to go on to? >> what happened is i lost my way as soon as i got hurt. when you take away your structure, here comes destruction. i was a guy who woke up every morning at the same time with my dad. we fed animals and worked construction and i went up against charles oakley. once you took away the structure, all of the structure came. i had too much free time. >> you were always an affable
guy and huh a career that i think nbc to become a commentator. what i want to you do and most people want to hear, take me back to that night. huh the harlem globetrotters to your house that night and you were in your bedroom and with a gun. what happened? >> don, i can say i was terribly reckless. to go back to that night, we went to a globetrotter game. we had my adopted grandchildren with me. some other friends went back and you were a young man. i am not making excuses. nobody wants to see your artwork on the wall. they want to see your guns. i recklessly showed a gun to somebody and went to snap it closed and the gun went off and killed him. if i could take it all back and just be much more careful in the whole situation, i am so sorry
for all the pain i caused. >> have you spoken to his family? >> i have spoken to his family. i spoke to his family only through written statements. i would love to sit down with his family. his sister. that would be a private event. that wouldn't be a media event. that would be between he and his sister. >> what would you say? >> i am sorry for the pain i caused his family and i am terribly sorry. i have caused so much pain. >> how often does this replay in your mind? do you think about it every day and often? >> all day long. i'm not making any excuses for this. i take full responsibility. i understand the damage i caused. collateral and everything else. i think about this all day long. >> i want to take you back to that moment. that was a moment in 2010 when
you were sentenced in a new jersey courtroom and you had the handcuffs. this was for everyone that was tough to watch when you were at the top of your game. listen to this. >> with regard to the gang order, this sentence eradicates all prior orders. >> he said i want to finish this up to serve your sentence. he said good luck to you, mr. williams and it looks like your live is falling apart at this moment and you know it. >> that was ten years ago. when you are going through a court kais for eight years and you have a relationship with the court clerk. you have a relationship with the court. the lawyers and everybody else. after that, at that time i thought that the judge thought i could show remorse and reform my life.
>> did you think you were untouchable at the time? >> i think so. i think at a time where you think you are bigger than everybody else. when you lose your way sometimes, those are the things that happen. you lose your way. i lost my way, don. >> you lost your way. i want to read something here in the statement from the deputy attorney general involved in the prosecution. he said mr. williams has a dark side. nobody knows the real jay son williams. there is a jeckyl and hyde side. did that dark side exist? we need to take a break and i will ask you that on the other side. when i earned my doctorate through university of phoenix, that pride, that was on my face. i am jocelyn taylor. i'm committed to making a difference in people's lives,
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we are back with former nba star jayson williams. everything he knew changed on valentine's day 2 thousand 2. he was playing around with a shotgun when it went off, killing his chauffeur. i want to read something he wrote, letters to his father, mailed them to a friend while you were locked up. >> that's right. >> he now published the letters into a book called humbled, letters from prison. he is with me here now again. thank you again. don't be nervous. i know this is hard for you, but you can let people know how you feel. you are doing a great job.
at your sentencing, you made a declaration and you said i will work to improve myself and make positive contributions to society. it's like you were foreshadowing to where you are now. is that so? >> the first thing i had to do in prison was examine myself. then i had to be remorseful and i repented and reform and the first thing was examining what causes me to get in trouble all the time with my dark side. it was alcohol. >> is that what it was? >> it was alcohol. >> it took eight years between when the incident happened and when you went to prison in 2010. during that time you crashed your car and you were on probation and got a dui and got a divorce. all these things. why didn't you have that moment of clarity in that time? >> it was a difficult time in my
life. like i said before, the collateral damage that you cause. sometime people that you think are around, you should tell them the right thing with the athlete and you can't make excuses. it was all my fault. it was an alcoholic at the time. i was a functioning alcoholic. >> were you drinking that much? >> i was. >> were you drinking a lot? >> i definitely was. when you have structure and you get up every morning and you have to be somewhere, but once you retire and you lose your way and you don't have the right people telling you the right thing, but you are a grown man. >> you have people who depended on you? >> no excuses. i'm a grown man. >> before the break, he said mr. williams has a dark said. nobody knows the real jays soon williams. >> he is not correct. i am a christian first. there times i lost my way, but
when i was drinking at times, maybe i did have a dark side. i know i did. i think i'm a good man who has done a lot of good and i have to continue. >> you were in real prison. you were not in a celebrity prison. reichers and state prison in new jersey. >> that's right. >> what was a profound moment there? >> any time a 22-year-old correction officer can tell you to bend over or get snake and you lose your freedom, i think right there you realize that you are in prison. it's not being 6'10" and being a famous athlete is going to help you. at that point when you can't do anything and somebody is telling you what to do. >> they search you for cant ra band? >> that's right. >> you adopted your sister's
kids and what's your relationship like with your kids now? >> that's a personal matter. i love my kids and i can't make up time for that. i never use my kids as a pawn and never say i will not put my kids -- they didn't make the decision. >> you are going through a divorce. >> i am and i can't make up for the time i lost with my children. all i can do is better myself as a christian and as a father. >> i have to ask you this because we have the thing with penn state and jerry sandusky. you had an issue when you were a child. did that affect your behavior? you were molested. >> yes. >> do you think that affected your behavior. did you deal with it as a child in. >> i definitely did my mother being white and my father being black, i didn't want to cause any more drama to them and i kept a lot of things to myself. until i got to prison, i couldn't keep a memoire or a junior and i wrote letters to my father and it flowed.
when it started flowing, those things started coming out on to the paper. i never meant it to be a book, but those are one of the letters that came into play with me. i am sweating up in here. >> it's actually cold in here. >> it's difficult to explain about child molestation in two or three minutes, but i am willing to talk to all groups and anybody i can help. sometimes i wake up and i want to save the world and then i want to save my community and somebody i have to save myself. it's a difficult transition and like i said, i caused all this pain. what else do i tell you but i'm sorry. >> you were there three years? >> i was in 26 months. >> it's a different world. you didn't recognize the world when you came out. what did you mean? >> it's a lot more difficult when you get out of jail. you become institutionalized.
you become afraid of certain crowds and it's difficult to be around people because you are wondering what they are thinking. do they remember you as a basketball player or someone who is reckless. i put my confidence in god every day and people said did you find got in prison? let me explain that. i was two phone calls away from anybody in the world. who are you going to call on but god? that's the only one. i couldn't call my lawyer or my dad. nobody could help me but god. he brought me peace and joy and comfort and i am trying to be a better person. what what do you fear most? >> that's a fear. being honest. you got me in here sweating and i don't know what is tomorrow. i know i have to take it one day at a time. i have to stay with god first and in the center of everything i do. that's the fear. i don't know what tomorrow lies,
but i know today i am trying to be the best man i can be. >> what motivates you to continue? you don't want to go back or feel like you can never make up or make good on what happened to you? >> to help people to understand what makes things happen the way they happen. i don't want to come out of prison and say hey, not explain to them because to let people know that one instant and how something can change your life. this is the reason this journal came about and we published them and i am not making any money and all the proceeds go to charity. i want to make sure a young man or person ever has to go through without giving my two cents on the situation. >> the next chapter for jason williams. will you ever work again? you are going to be going on to be a big contributor or commentator for nbc. that was the next thing and this
tragedy happened. what's next for you? >> one day at a time to be honest. one day at a time. god is good. >> humble. letters for prison. it's fascinating and i read excerpts, but it's amazing. >> thanks. thank you. >> i appreciate it. jayson williams, everyone. up next -- >> we wasn't be her. she's my best student. >> turning a blind eye to mean girl who is turn into meaner women. use your computer, your smartphone, your tablet, whatever. women. oh, how convenient. hey. crab cakes, what are you looking at? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
girls, but the reality is different. it's not a stereo typical meat head or thug. it can be a she. she comes in designer shoes, jeans or even pigtails. she can be stunning, unassuming or a tom boy. bullying is not just for boys. i am not telling them anything they don't already know. her daughter, elizabeth. welcome to both of you. elizabe elizabeth, you are a bully victim. what happened to you? >> my freshman year of high school there was a situation with my roommates and it was just so shocking to me because i wasn't expecting it to happen in the college environment. little things to make my life harder on a daily basis and i was living with them. that made it more difficult. >> i want to show you something that just came in this week. a mother in belgium saw girls
bulling her autistic daughter. mom posted it in an effort to make it stop. it's hard to watch. is it a good idea for mom to post this? >> no, absolutely not. that's definitely part of our issue. i'm a high school teacher and only are we battling kids videotaping harmful acts and words to bus monitors and classmes and posting them on facebook and other websites, now we have adults doing the same. again, we need role models so that we can work with our kids to speak up when they see such things happening. adults need to be doing that as well. >> do you think that girl bullies are worse than boys? here's why i ask this. because boys will have fights, not that any of it is good, but they have fights and they move on.
girls will talk about each other and become a bit more insidious when it comes to language about and spreading rumors. do you think that it's different for girls? >> absolutely. girls are very manipulative and it can be silent and it's relational bullying. to something that is simple like what you saw in the video clip from mean girls. that subtle compliment to turn around and make the smart remark. sometimes the victim there of the smart remark will still be standing there and they want them to be. it's very underhand and cady and manipulative, yes. >> that was your experience? >> yes. they found out personal things about me and they also played a prank on me that they videotaped and put up on facebook and i didn't know until the next morning when i checked my
facebook. it was these friends that i trusted. the first semester of college and the second semester was different because they found out the weak points and turned it around in a negative way. >> what did that do to you being bullied in that way? what do you want? all bullies, but especially girls to know about the way they bully other girls? >> that it really can ruin someone's life. it ruined my freshman year of college. they think that one remark is not going to be effective in any way. they are saying it to their friends and think it's not going to hurt them. i would go home every weekend to get away from them. every weekend when i had to go back to school, it was awful. i would be crying the whole time. it really ruined my freshman year of college. >> elizabeth and laurie, stand
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mean girls. eventually they grow up and head to the board room of course. >> you don't read? >> before today, you never were mean? >> no. >> you work a year for her and you can get a job anywhere. >> you have no style or sense of fashion. >> there is no question. >> merrill streep as the ultimate bully in the devil wears prada. you love to hate her or loved her or hated her for the role. you don't always hate the real bully in your office. are girl bullies worse than boy bullies? >> what we are seeing and the study shows they are actually
meaner than the boys. the boy bullies will go there and remain enemies or end it in a hug, but they go their separate ways. with girl bullies, because they are socialized to not be as confrontational as far as being physical, they use more of a passive aggressive form. we see it through hurtful words and trying to keep someone out of a certain clique. the psychological damage that can be done by a girl bully is sometimes absolutely devastating. >> if they don't learn in grade school or college, maybe the behavior festers and grows. we saw stats there being bullied in the workplace. >> that's right. >> why do women become bullies in the workplace? >> because those attributes they carry, the personality traits and they carry a lot of those
habits. they get reinforced and they are successful in mowing down enemies and they see thats a strategy in the board room. >> do men sort of go cat fight or do men encourage it in some way in the workplace? >> what we are seeing in the workplace is this whole idea of psychological splitting. i'm good, you are bad. if they can look at women behaving badly through some of this bullying and they can say we are much more mature in what we are doing. they may be in a position of being the bosses and having women fight it out for territory. in some ways by not helping the situation, men make it much, much worse. >> i wanted to look at it because those are the numbers. that was from purdue university. i top the explain to the viewers what they mean here. these are numbers from purdue university.
when asked, have you bullied in the workplace, 48% said yes. 19% of men said yes. >> 48 to 19. >> the reason being that it is a very unfair and unequal world and women, today and tonight, sometimes feel that they have no choice but to try to get to where they need to go and try to crash that glass ceiling, if you will, by having to resort to being mean by any means possible. at the end of the day, we as men have to take responsibility for that especially if we are in those positions of authority that in some way sanction that behavior, but certainly make it difficult for women to be able to get equity by normal means. >> interesting. laurie and elizabeth, thank you very much. i am glad you stuck around. we all learned from your experience and appreciate it and
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the editor and blogger. in atlanta for some reason, we reversed roles here. dino is a political comedian and observer from the political left. here we go. based on his achievements and promises kept, does president obama deserve a second term. before you answer that, this is an unscientific progress report. on health care, love it or hate it, he did it. send a thank you note to justice john roberts, mr. president. on the economy, i have to say no. we are stuck with high unemployment and slow growth and the stimulus bill didn't stimulate much. what do you think? can he run on that portion of his record? i am going to go to the naysayer, i'm sure. crystal is here. go ahead. >> no, the president does not deserve another term.
he ran on hope and change and you know what he brought is debt and division. >> i didn't say if you liked his achievements or agreed with them. i said based on what he has accomplished and that's hard for you to say on the right. >> the only thing he accomplish side obama care that is now a tax as chief justice roberts told us. not only will people be out of jobs, but taxed more. >> that are is a talking point. >> no, it's not. >> it is under the tax clause. if you don't pay your taxes, that is a penalty. it's not a tax. >> it is a tax. >> if you don't pay your taxes, you get penalized. >> don, have you head obama care? >> yes, i have. >> guess what, there $500 billion in taxes. >> that's a talking point. it's under the taxation part. >> 500 billion in the first years. >> what do you think?
>> i love being in atlanta and i love this desk. i want you back. i want you to stay down here. just 3ing it out there. obama definitely deserves a second term. on job growth, absolutely. he will get a c. it's not doing great. on health care, he had a great achievement. stimulus plan did help. unemployment at 10% in october of 2010. it is down to 8.2%. not great, but getting better. 27 months in a row, job creation. it's getting there. it's not a tax, by the way. it's not a tax. >> it's not a tax. listen, that's what people don't understand. i am not political at all. i don't care much about politics, but no one seems to get their brains around you don't have to be on the left or the right. it's not the commerce clause, but under the taxation part. it doesn't mean it's a tax because it falls under that clause. that say talking point. the reason crystal is so quiet
is she can't hear you. >> perfect. this is the greatest thing ever. i want to talk to crystal for a few seconds. >> we want to go back on gay rights, he promised to end don't ask, don't tell. he came out in favor of gay marriage and on terrorism, also a check mark. he killed osama bin laden. he pulled the troops out of iraq and aggressive use of military drones. is that enough for a second term? >> we are killing terrorists we can't bring back home and question for plans of future attacks on the country. when if comes to foreign policy, this president leads from behind. syria, libya and egypt. he doesn't have a plan. he hits on the sidelines and iran is nuclearing up and israel has to take the lead. >> what? a loss for words?
>> i was hoping to hear dean in the background, but i don't think i will. on foreign policy, no. it was the bush policies that were enacted and waterboard figure we recall that enabled the president to capture osama bin laden. let's give credit where credit is due. >> that's the greatest talking points i have heard. that was foreign policy. it has been successful. libya worked out well from egypt. osama bin laden keeping safe from terrorism. bush failed. >> yeah. i am being told by my producer both sides are getting too in the weeds. stand by. for all of you who are saying what are you getting the talking points from the tea party. it's mitt romney's turn next. does his record pass the test? ♪
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visit phoenix.edu to find the program that's right for you. enroll now. >> we are back. we graded the president and we are back to take a look at mitt romney's report. romney has a record on health care. it is the inspiration for obama care. it is the same thing, but now it's national. romney insists it was the right thing for massachusetts, but not for the nation. we will give him credit for insuring am almost everyone in his state. on the economy and business krar, massachusetts ranked 47th, but he said his career created literally thousands of jobs. we will give him a question
moork that. dean, is mitt romney looking presidential on these issues? >> mitt romney is a very stiff and wooden guy. is he looking presidential? mitt romney, the number one issue is jobs and the economy. it will be a difficult sale. 47th in job creation. at bain capital, he created 100,000 jobs over 15 years. that's not a job creator. it will be a struggle for him on health care and some individual mandate. it's a much better fight for him. >> you know, dean, i am laughing because president obama was a grass roots activist and he became a senator and didn't finish out his term. mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he took unemployment from 6.3% to 4.6%. at bain capital which he started in 1984 he created jobs.
he created staples -- he helped create staples, dominos, brook stone, lots of jobs and help companies stay alive. he is a job creator and he actually and the olympics. let's talk about the olympics. $300 million in debt. mitt romney ended the 2002 olympics with a $100 million profit. he knows how to run a business. this president is in over his head. all the things i listed about mitt romney make him more qualified to lead the country out of this jobless state. >> let's get back to the progress report. social issues, his inconsistency earns him an x. he has been hard to pin down from gun control to abortion. he turned things around for the olympics. we will rate that a success. in all honesty, if you talk to
people involved in the olympics, they said he was a figure head. it was on his watch so you have to give him credit for that. it was on his watch. i am saying you have to give him credit for it. did you hear me say that? does romney's record meet the overall office test? >> absolutely. mitt romney struggled with tough issues. immigration and health care. he said romney care was the right solution for the states. he offered a new health care plan that said repeal and replace, but also portability for insurance across state lines. >> i want dean to respond. >> i think mitt romney is hard to pin down. he has been pro health care and pro choice and pro life. his slogan should be me too. he is tough and he is not really a flip flopper. i think he is a ceo and if the
slogan doesn't, work, he changes it. >> hope and change hasn't worked. >> i have to ask this. when we talk about the health care issue i have been watching both sides from the really far left media to the really far right media. it is a huge win and a win is say win to this win is not a loss because when does a win become a loss? how does that happen? >> 32% of the american people still think obama care is a bad idea. >> that's because they don't -- >> 32%. >> more than 80% of. >> 32% approve. >> more than 80% don't actually know what it does and know what's in the bill. >> they know exactly what it does. government take over for health care. >> i don't think the democrats or president obama sold as well as it went to court and they waited for the court to decide. he has motivated the right more
than they were going to be able to be struck down. >> we have been talking about health care and my producers were telling us we were heavy. that's on time. we have to go. you are the comedian. don't you get that. >> dean doesn't look heavy to you. >> nor do you. don looks a little chunky. >> thank you. don't hate, dean. >> i'm not hating. just being playful. >> up next. >> tom cruise katie holmes and the end of com cat. why some say scientology is to blame. tat. why some say scientology is to blame. oat. why some say scientology is to blame. mat. why some say scientology is to blame. kat. why some say scientology is to blame. >> i grew up diving in the florida keys and i decided that's what i wanted to do for a living. live on coral reef s.
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we have never seen you behave this way. have you ever felt this way before? >> i'm in love. i'm in love. it seems like just yesterday that tom cruise jumped on oprah's couch professing his love for katie holmes. this week tom kat is calling it quits sadly. dean is back. i don't know why we brought him back and family law attorney randy kessler. divorce is no laughing matter. people are saying scientology played a part in their split. >> who knows what is going down deep inside their mines. could it have, sure. when she said she wants sole custody, you want to send a message to be the decision maker and raise your child with your beliefs and values.
maybe it was about scientology. >> yeah. it is being reported and this is not cnn, but it is reported that he wants sole custody because she doesn't want suri affiliated with scientology. have you heard that? >> i have not heard that. almost every case end says up in shared parenting. to say out loud i want sole custody, you want to be the one deciding which church your child goes to and which school and which doctors. you want to be the making the decision. could it be scientology? it could be other ones. dean, you are an attorney as well. i wish i was there in atlanta. >> we are happy. >> no doubt. there had to be a prenup with the marriage. >> i head there was.
>> i thought they were fighting over it. it's an iphone ap and a human being. i think there is an issue. i was raised with two faiths. if the parents don't make an accommodation, i have plenty of friends and they had a lot of problems. katie holmes is really catholic and tom cruise is scientologist. it could be an issue that simple. >> all right. you and crystal ate up all the time so we will have you back. thank you, guys. as long as no one gets hurt, who doesn't love a good trip? this is our video of the weak. . >> you can watch cnn and stay connected on your cell phone or from your computer at work. go to cnn.com/tv. ♪
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